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And manager mode should be more realistic like clubs have actual owners and bring back training it was a good idea you just need to tune it a bit
Also transfers are way off the mark ...why cant u pay as much as u want for a player its stupid andyou should be able to choose how long u want to loan someone and you should have to agree on a players personal terms aswell (so like you pay and initial fee for the club and meet with the player and find out what he is demanding and stuff like that
And also scouting is poor i just scouted juan lopez vera from australia! make it more real guys comon
But i think the game play is great well done :D
yeah i like the stadium idea very much
VILLA PARK and other great stadiums like goodison etc also have a divide between fans so you can tell clearly who they support…juz the little things that make it great! :)
2. You should be allowed to change the kit numbers.
3. Better crowds that clap or boo a player off of the field after a sub.
4. A youth academy.
5. MORE STADIUMS SUCH AS EL SANTIAGO BERNABEU!!!
6. A world cup and a club team world cup.
7. international cups.
8. Maybe the Copa Libertadores and Sudamericana
9. A much more realistic gameplay in the rain, snow, etc.
10. Crazy fans jumping, yelling, sitting under huge flags, fireworks,etc.
11. A bench with the subs manager, etc.
12. The substitutes warming up during the game.
Also i forgot to add, more night games.
licenced international kits(all of them)
more default haircuts
more prem stadiums
Zenit st petersburg
better kit graphics(more like pes)
better pitch graphics(like pes)
international manager mode
like swansea city for egsample they have a new lush stadium..but...on the game you give them a rubbish stadium.And put in create a stadium that would be good
in create a team.
-reff-possobly be a reff mode where you get the chance to give a warning,yellow card or red card or send the manager out the dug outs and in the stands.
-supporters-possobly be a supporter mode where you can be the memmber of the crowd and ether bww or chear players that are on the pitch.
-sky sports-put sky sports on- like at the start of the match you see them give interviews to the manager and player and possobly the fans.
-commenteders-have a choise of commentador becouse it gets boring after while after hearing the same commentadors over and over again.
-manager mode- have longer seasons in manager mode not 15.
I keep a track of 1000s of players on there, even if i never end up signing them. Basically when u start career manager mode, apart from teams in whatever division ur team is in a player disapears and is never seen again in each of your opponents squad
for example if manchester united fifa squad is 36 out of a limit of 42, as soon as u set up ur manager mode its 35, which ever particular player it is i check if he was released for free, he wasn’t and thats it he is disapeared
It happens to every single team apart from u or ur opponents in the same division as u thankfully
but on the last game fifa 08 it happened to ur team which pissed me right off because i liked to have big squad
basically on fifa 09 if u select a team squad which ur not going to be on manager mode and is not in same division whoever doesn make the starting 11 or subs bench, then someone in the reserves disapears and can never be seen on there ever
i kno i might sound sad but it shouldn be happening the creator of this game should get it bloody right
the way i found to avoid players i like that dun play for me but play for opponents i like,
u go to settings and change the amount of subs to 12 and have a 23 man squad for manager mode
who ever is reading this epspecially playstian 3 players check out ur opponent squads and see what im talkin about
save ur career mode, go out of it and compare the size of for example man utd squad in and out of career mode
player like denilson, middlesborough left back andy taylor disapear can disapear and maybe there players u look to sign in the future
who ever creates fifa, if u are reading this please get the bloody game right
fifa has to drastically change
Get fifa right big time
i have a nother comment.
in be a pro seasons you should maby put your pro on the bench and maby on the bench we can see on the screen what he sees in his eyes to see whats happening on the pitch.through out the match you can put the players swetting,spitting,and shouting to each other.
add another game mode called be a manager just like manegar mode but without controlling the players. you could move the manager where the manager usally is and maby have a list of things that you could say to a player and after the match the player will make a comment about your speech to him. you could have another mode called be a little player where you start playing football at the age of 8. you join a youth club and keep playin untill 16. a team will ask for you to play for them and you have to show your skills to the manager with keepy uppys and then they will choose you.also it would be fun to grow your player and see how his face looks like when he gets older. you can go throu transfers to different teams.
You should also be able to play xbox live with the created team.
All features really for the created team and created players.
you need cup matches and why not have world cup qualifying not just friendly games
you should beable to get transfered mid season. you should get subed if your playing bad or start on the bench.
1)i suggest the new AI should be able to differentiate b/w ronaldo and ronaldinho , i mean ronaldo's more selfish than ronaldinho , computer with ronaldo should dribble more ,
2) there should be a system of trademark passing styles and types for eg fabregas always passes the ball to a player in the open space ahead of him , even when he's in his own D , i want the same or like wise to be brought to fifa franchise ,
3) adrenaline feature should be added , ie when ever we play football we get an adrenaline rush after scoring a goal , so should the video game playes
would be great and also more specifik actions for the more faomus players.
and please TRAINING MODE.
fifa 07 on xbox was great take it and fifa 09 and you will make a great game.
and when you buy a player you should see a picture of the player holding his new shirt.
more advanced transferseason and 2-player mode in be a pro offline.
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Return of the Bernabeau stadium (Real Madrids stadium). I have all fifas since 96 and Since fifa 07 you have left this out.
Managers on the touchline.
Subs and other team members on the touchline/ bench warming up ect. Players come off the bench (Thats Non existent) and onto the pitch. Perhaps before they come on make them run up and down the side of the pitch. Look like they are warming up. Perhaps as they come on the Assistant holds up the board number substitution and they be talking to the manager or coach as they enter the field.
AT THE MOMENT A PLAYER JUST TURNS UP ON THE PITCH HE DIDNT WARM UP OR ANYTHING!!!.
With this could be a boo crowd reaction or clapping reaction depending how the player did in the game HE PLAYED A GOOD GAME THE CROWD WILL CLAP HIM OFF.
HE PLAYED NOT GOOD THE CROWD WILL WHISTLE AND BOO HIM ECT.
Flags in the crowd.
Linesmen.
Crowd ambience like mexican wave ect THIS WILL MAKE THE STADIUMS ELECTRIC ATMOSPHERE. YOU TURN THE VOLUME UP PLAYING FIFA WITH A STADIUM THAT FEELS ALIVE!!!!!!.(YOU HAVE PS3 AND XBOX 30 MORE POWERFUL AND FASTER PROCESSORS ECT).
More balls like UEFA Champions league ball.
Some stadiums particurlarly based on south american clubs perhaps have fans moving around. JUMPING UP AND DOWN FLARES ECT. RUN FORWARDS TOWARDS THE PITCH WHEN TEAM SCORE A GOAL. ( WATCH BOCA JUNIORS OR RIVER PLATE IN ARGENTINA FOR IDEA).
Edit boots option.
Multiple language commentary. Example English Spanish Portuguese brazilian Italian German French Arabic.
A UEFA champions league trophy that looks like the actual trophy.
Sweat on Players.
Grass when the player slides on rain lies down the grass.
Rain makes the hair shirt wet.
Puddles and other effects from rain.
Stewards and Police moving around the edge of the pitch.
Players and coaching staff actually leaving pitch via a tunnel.
THE IDEAS OR SOME OF THE ABOVE AS I HAVE PLAYED ABOUT EVERY FOOTBALL GAME SINCE FIFA 96 ON PRETTY MUCH EVERY CONSOLE WOULD MAKE A GAME VERY GREAT I THINK.
IT MIGHT BE JUST MY OPINION.
BUT I THINK THAT AS
YOU HAVE THE LICENCES OFFICIAL. YOU HAVE THE CONSOLES FASTER MORE POWERFUL LIKE PS3 XBOX 360 BETTER PCS.
WITH SOME IDEAS OF THE ABOVE YOU COULD MAKE A GAME THAT WOULD WHOP PRO EVOLUTION INTO THE PAST.
ITS UPTO YOU TO LISTEN TO US.
WE ARE AFTER ALL THE REASON WHY YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL AT EA SPORTS.
Sorry i forgot also perhaps a world cup every 4 years in manager mode.
A European championships every 4 years in manager mode.
Sorry i forgot also perhaps a world cup every 4 years in manager mode.
A European championships every 4 years in manager mode.
Realism
Sense of Occasion
I don't know how to describe it but playing in a cup final feels the same as playing a league game or an international friendly. Minor tweaks just to add significance to relegation battles, cup finals etc. would make a huge difference and a big thing that EA haven't fully utilllized yet is the crowd.
Crowd
Grounds in Italy have a different atmosphere and sound from Spain or England or Germany but this doesn't come through in the game. For example when a goal is scored in England the conventional reaction by fans is to shout "yeah!" or "yes!". In Spain or Italy it's "Gol!" as in "Goal". Amplfiy this noise by 60,00 and you see what I mean.
Different sounds, different languages, different chants, jeering and booing, whistling as the clock approaches 90 minutes - it all needs to come through in the game.
A nice touch would be to make increase the significance of playing at home or away through the crowd. Playing away isn't intimidating or a disadvantage in FIFA 09, the only difference is that the location changes.
Home fans should jeer away players when they get a touch of the ball and call for every infringement against their team to be penalised by the ref. They should boo big name opposition players, scream "ole" when their team strings together loads of passes and be dead silent when they conceed a goal as a small outburst of away supporters cheering becomes audible, just to make everything seem more realistic.
Weather
Rain+ Mud offers the chance for some really cool animations, effects and graphics, especially on the next gen consoles. Players slipping about and having more pace on a slick surface would be a neat touch to the gameplay and would test gamers ability to judge the conditions, just like real life.
Camera Angles
Have never been realistic of what we see when watch football on TV. In FIFA you get views from behind the players feet as they run towards the goal as if the camera man is on the pitch which is just too unrealistic during an actual match.
When the "Tele" camera angle is selected, it should be just that. Exactly how it would look if camera men where in place filming the action. Obviously with the current option still available if people prefer that instead.
Gameplay
The player AI needs help and can be tweaked to make play more realistic. Sometimes when my player is chasing the ball, I can't even change the direction he's running in when I anticipate where the ball is going.
Animations have been added and improved but they normally stop you from moving your player at times which is frustrating. A few tweaks here plus the ability to shirt pull and dive would make things really interesting.
The Referee is far too strict and his linesman is far too perfect. It would actually be more fun if the ref and his assistants got some decisions that are too close to call wrong.
The playing advantage system also leaves a lot to be desired and sometimes my players are getting booked 20 minutes after a foul. Refs should sometimes just talk to players already rather than constantly booking.
The BIGGEST problem with the game is the gulf quality between teams. Even though FIFA 09 offers so many teams, only 15% of them are worth playing with because every other teams stats are too low and too rubbish to have fun playing with. People don't feel like playing with their actual boyhood teams because they know how uneven the balance is. This is reflected online games where there is a 1 in 5 chance you'll play Man Utd each match.
If matches between teams where based around the morale of players as the statistical variables develop through the match like possession for example, it would be more realistic than a guaranteed walkover. After all football is supposed to be unpredictable and even good teams have an off day when a smaller side gets on top.
Game Modes
Manager Mode - Is not perfect and needs to become the centerpiece of the game rather than an after thought. After all that's the reason there are different versions of the same game each year.
Be A Pro - Needs to be a lot longer rather than four seasons and should give you the ability to take your player through training sessions and maybe warm ups before matches. There should also be normal seasons complete with domestic trophies. Some of the targets from game to game are also way too ambitious. Its ridiculous I'm expected to score a hat-tric every two games and get a 10 out of 10 match rating.
Tranining Mode - A proper mode where you can practice like the old FIFA games. Free Kicks (with a wall) corners, penalties, 11 v 11 etc.
Make A Club - From scratch, putting together a team, renting out a cheap stadium and throwing yourself into a low leauge, gradually gaining more fans as you pull up the table and become eligable to compete in cup games against top teams. It would be a nice touch and the possibilities are endless.
Five-A-Side Mode - Just like the real deal where you can improve your close control, passing, technique and precision. As a training excercise in manager mode or Be A Pro or even online, this mode would be decent.
Legends - The ability to unlock greats from different eras for the arena wouldn't be a bad idea. I'd love to play as Cantona, Zidane or Maradona in my arena after earning them!
Online Manager Mode - Although it sounds complex, it could work if players from all over the world where able to play as the opposing teams in your managerial career.
Online
Players quiting matches before they are over because they aren't man enough to take a defeat is a huge problem. There should be penalties for quiting games early like deducting EXP Points or something and we should be able to see clear stats before we play a game against someone to show whether the opponent has a habit of quiting matches early. In fact you shouldn't be allowed to quit online games, it only penalises the true champs when they don't get their hard fought victories recorded.
Ranked matches should actually RANK players in terms of ability. People with 2351 points can be paired in a ranked match with someone on 81312 points which isn't fair.
Although it may be a contriversial suggestion I think Adidas Live Season should be scrapped. It trys to make a football simulation game too realistc and ends up being a bit of an unrealistic mess. It also causes lots of problems when trying to play friends who haven't got the update.
More
Real Stadiums
Arenas
Celebrations
More countries
Stadiums Grass/night lighting
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What is wrong with the night lighting in Fifa 09. I have tried every single combination of brightness and contrast and it still looks so bad. This is how old trafford should look at night in fifa 10. https://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:…Q/IMG_0171.jpg
1. Transfers being linked to performance (top scorer costing more and harder to sign)
2. Bidding against other teams for transfers for your players and for players your after
3. Longer injuries and a bigger variety
4. the music track list changing in the feb update
5.Seasonal weather and in all stadiums
6. being able to view other league standings and stats on players
7. having assist stats in the top 20's
8. goalkeepers that get sent off and injured
9. Transfer shortlist
10.Save replays to console rather than just online
11. Getting offered other jobs if your a good manager.
12.Preseason friendlies
13. Realistic targets from the board (in the prem with peterborough first season I'm expected to win the league).
14. SET PIECE EDITOR.
15. Option of who goes in the box for corners and free kicks
16. Quick freekicks
17. Kit editor, also being able to edit kits once a season in manager mode.
18. Change the keeper in the arena
19. On long free kicks we should be able to play the ball 360 not just in front of you
20. Created players should be able to have alll stats on 99
21. INDOOR 5 ASIDE STADIUM LIKE 97.
22. Real promotion set up's for lower divs and real tournament set up with replays neutral venues and the final in the national stadium.
23. Custom manager faces
24. Players warming up on the touch line.
25. the inclusion of Holland and Ivory Coast
26. Create a team
27. bring back customisable team numbers (removed for 09)
28. bigger variety of ROTW teams
29. Classic teams with well known classic players like Pele, Maradona, Zico, Charlton.
30. A training wall in the arena for free kick practise.
31.A practice mode with mini game like drills to complete.
32.The ability to change captain mid match.
33. more about the managers & players of other teams (sackings, hirings, injuries) maybe in a daily news kinda thing....(madden has an in game radio show)
34. the ability to set loan periods for your players and to be able to call back a player from loan should you need it
35. Champions league games played at night.
36. The ability to change captain mid match.
37. More details to choose from in detailed search. ie. Height - shot power.
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A couple of points about night matches.
How come so few stadiums allow you to play at night? 95% of stadiums have lights these days.
More importantly - how come it's so dark during night matches? Okay, maybe little small stadiums have lights that barely light the whole ground, but not big modern stadiums. On FIFA you can play at the Emirates, and the sides of the pitch aren't even lit. In real life the artificial lights light the entire pitch well, as well as most of the stands.
Basically, the lights at night just need to be a bit brighter, and to cover the entire pitch (at least for bigger, more modern
Something to do with the fact that the graphics have to be rendered differently for Stadiums which have the feature. im sure someone can elaborate
2. subs on the side, and show them warming up. I think you should elect players to warm up on the side, and then when they come into the game they have more energy than say someone who comes on straght from the bench (similar to relief pitchers in baseball if that helps)
3. edit the look of all players in player creation
4. create a stadium? this would be cool
5. like the idea of in-game updates from other games
6. PRE-SEASON MATCHES!!! This HAS to be included, you can schedule like 3-5 matches pre season, whether it be against 3rd division teams, or teams from different leagues
7. Better commentary - update a lot of the commentary, i've heard enough of Andy Gray calling Fabregas a teenager, since when were 21 year olds teenagers?
8. realistic money amounts - for salaries, transfers, all that.
9. Better player development - rate of gaining experience should differ depending on age, ex. van bommel doesn't get as much experience from playing a game as kroos.
10. more decisions as a manager
11. longer injuries
12. CPU doesn't play the same 11 every game of the year
And in the end, how many of these will be attended to? We'd be lucky if 2 of them were addressed
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well the next fifa 10 or the anniversary edition, special decade of being crap for years then the ultimate football game edition, or what ever its called needs some things
fifa 09 is the best fifa in years, better now than pro evolution which seems to be a misplaced game title as pro evo has took steps BACKWARDS! and hasnt evolved!
so fifa needs some minor touches and features
like ……a proper training mode, so we who use manual controls and those who just some manual things can practice,as the arena is all assited and does not reflect your control method even when its all on manual
were we can set up walls for free kicks,corner practice and what ever else you feel like doing
and better squad line up saving, say we go a team and set up our favourite selection of players and save the line up, so we can go online with that structure, and why isnt captain and marking not on in onlines modes? it should be fixed
more addidas live leagues, scottish spl! for a starter if a mexican league is there so should the spl and other leagues
more stadia, like parkhead, glasgow celtics ground AKA “PARADISE†and even mordor aka ibrox! celtic park is a massive 60,000 all seater stadium and mordor is a 50,000 one, even smelly hampden 53,000 capacity so more stadiums
better transfers and growth system, more youth devolpment
and for online games, more options for custom controls, not just assisted or manual, but your preferance for you and your opponent like say, manual shooting,passing,and assited through balls,semi lob ect ect, as playing manual i enjoy but sometimes you play guys who just quit after their pass goes astray
and please take the tiny delay from shooting and passing away!!!the slight delay is there! its tiny, but it is some times annoying, you get ball and want an instant pass, but in 09 you need to charge a bar, sure most games have a bar, but one for passing? instand controls and passing please!
and a great random team selection button, or euro all star team vs world allstar online game, and even a random squad game, where the game picks a squad of 24 from the games player database for a game which is truelly random!
a few other things like more boots and stuff, and the option to change the color of the boots from ea
we will see in august september time, so roll on fifa 2010/fifa decades
or just FIFA soccer or FIFA,EVOLVED SOCCER
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Ive recently swapped boats from PES to FIFA after playing both of the latest instalments. In terms of gameplay FIFA 09 takes the cake although not without its many minor niggles. But in terms of variety of game modes and game depth PES is well ahead. For me a combination of the two titles would make for the ultimate football experience. The following are elements of FIFA that need to be improved on for the next title.
KEEPER AI: the goalkeepers in FIFA 09 make some ridiculous decisions and dont work very well with their defenders. Examples of the poor AI are when the keeper will not come out to the ball when it is passing right in front of him or watch as an opposition striker collects the ball from right under his nose before knocking it home. They also often come well out of their box and instead of clearing the ball control it and are challenged by the striker or worse colide with their own defender. PES keepers in general have a far better AI.
DEFENDER AI IN 4 STAR OR LESS TEAMS: in both the Be A Pro mode and normal gameplay i find that teams with 4 or less star ratings tend to have very poor defensive strategy that makes for unrealistic scorelines and inconsistent gameplay. i play on world class and when up against say a chelsea or man u i will mostly have tight matches which i either win by a small margin or draw and sometimes lose. but when matched against hull or bolton or even teams like man city or aston villa i tend to win by 4, 5 and sometimes upto 9 or 10 goals with most of the goals coming from through balls with my strikers basically walking through the defensive line of the opposition. this element of the game needs fixing because it makes for a slightly boring game which only gets thrilling for 2 or 3 fixtures in one season.
GAME DEPTH IN BE A PRO MODE: this for me is one of the most important areas of the game which needs improvement. there is so much potential in be a pro mode but in terms of depth PES’s be a legend has far more to offer. in be a pro only playing for four seasons is far too short and it should span the entire career of the player. also you should play in not only the ‘world cup’ but also european cups etc with your national team. PES also have many individual awards like the Ballon d’ Or etc and when playing for your club you play not only the league but also other cups.
CONTROL SYSTEM IN BE A PRO: the button for calling for a ball, calling more defenders and urging teammates to shoot should be different from the button for passing and or playing through balls. so many times ive been in the clear and pressed Y to call for a through ball but the computer got there first passing as i called which results in my player kicking the ball ahead of himself when it gets to him. another niggle in be a pro is your player wont move after he passes the ball until the ball has reached you team mate.
TOURNAMENT MODE NEEDS MORE VARIETY AND DEPTH: why is their no option to play european cups, world cups, asian cups etc with national teams?? this is really frustrating because to play those cups you have to set it up yourself which is very time consuming.
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FA Cup Replays would be nice - something which Fifa 08 and Fifa 09 should have had.
Upload club songs - Many clubs have a song which is played after a Goal is scored in Home matches. Include a feature to upload the song for your club. EA could even make some of the songs available for download for a small fee.
Weather in Manager Mode - a must. which is actually visable in Tele cam.
Night matches - In Fifa 09, the grass looks to dull, especially in the corner area’s of the pitch. here’s a photo of a real life Night match at Old Trafford.
Different size pitch dimensions. Its rather odd that Town Park is the same size as Barcalona.
Save Goal Replays to HDD - a must.
In-game Scoreboard - Make the Scoreboard which says HOME VISITOR in some Stadiums, show the current score in the actual game instead of being blank.
In-game Goal updates - If your playing a relegation decider it adds so much more to the tension if you know what is currently happening if other important games which could decide your fate.
Responsiveness - Professional players are able to turn quickly, when turning in Fifa 09, players move to slow compared to real life.
Skill moves - The CPU teams should use skill moves especially on high difficulty levels such as World Class and Legendary.
Improved AI Free Kicks - The CPU teams on Fifa 09 are often dangerous from corners but they are very tame at free kicks even on World Class. make them much more of a threat. try to get a balance between Fifa 08 and Fifa 09.
Improved AI tactical awareness - CPU teams should make tactical substitutions based on how the game has developed rather than just making them at random. Also they should change their starting XI occasionally instead of using the same team each time.
Improved Ref AI - Make the Ref position himself on the pitch better so he doesnt get in the way of the ball as often. Also the ref should be less ‘card happy’ so players don’t get booked or sent off for no apparent reason.
Crowd Audio - If your the away team and you injure one of the oppositions players and he’s taken off, the crowd should boo when the player who commited the foul is on the ball.
Crowd Animations - More realistic reactions from fans in the Crowd. In Fifa 09, i was playing an away match and one of the players on the Home team got sent off but the shot of the crowd just showed the fans sitting still like they were at a funeral. Show the realism of passionate fans who are angry at their team going down to 10 men.
Commentary - Needs improvements to. way to many bugs. A new Commentary script would be ideal but if EA do recycle the same script please fix the bugs.
- It would be good if the Commentators mentioned the actual Cup competition in finals, rather than just having a Generic Commentary sample for all finals.
- When you sign a player who scores on his debut, the Commentator will talk about how estastic he will be to score in his first match for the club.
- When playing in 2 leg Cup tie’s, ie. the ECC knockout stages. the Commentators will be fully aware of the current situation and in the 2nd leg will talk about what is required from each team to progess. ie, if the 1st leg was 0-0 and your losing 1-0 in the 2nd leg, Martin Tylor will say ‘insert teams name’ need just one goal now to progess into the next round, can they find that vital goal from somewhere’. Then Andy Grey can put in a comment about the likelyhood of you getting a goal taking into account how the game has developed so far, how many shots you’ve had, etc…
- Occasionally talking about the League table situation and reflecting accurately on what result you need and can realistically achieve - especially when your either challenging for the title or in a relegation battle.
- If your management is poor ie, you choose a bad formation which results in you conceding a few goals they will talk about the bad tactics employed by the manager and mention exactly where it went wrong. ie, you failed to get any service to the strikers
Custom Tactics - In Fifa 09, each time you start a match it reverts back to your Default Custom tactics instead of your Saved Custom tactics. The ability to start every match without having to change it back to the Saved tactics manually would be good.
More Customization -
Goal Replays. A setting to change the length of Goal Replays and change the camera angle for when they are shown after a Goal. so you can see the build up of Goals and select your prefered camera angle.
Throw ins. A setting which ables you to choose Throw-in takers, plus a stat should be added for Throw-in takers ability.
Free kicks. The ability to move your wall from side to side when facing a free kick.
Trophy Celebrations - In Cup finals show the winning team lifting the Trophy. Makes the feeling of winning it so much better!
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Ive recently swapped boats from PES to FIFA after playing both of the latest instalments. In terms of gameplay FIFA 09 takes the cake although not without its many minor niggles. But in terms of variety of game modes and game depth PES is well ahead. For me a combination of the two titles would make for the ultimate football experience. The following are elements of FIFA that need to be improved on for the next title.
KEEPER AI: the goalkeepers in FIFA 09 make some ridiculous decisions and dont work very well with their defenders. Examples of the poor AI are when the keeper will not come out to the ball when it is passing right in front of him or watch as an opposition striker collects the ball from right under his nose before knocking it home. They also often come well out of their box and instead of clearing the ball control it and are challenged by the striker or worse colide with their own defender. PES keepers in general have a far better AI.
DEFENDER AI IN 4 STAR OR LESS TEAMS: in both the Be A Pro mode and normal gameplay i find that teams with 4 or less star ratings tend to have very poor defensive strategy that makes for unrealistic scorelines and inconsistent gameplay. i play on world class and when up against say a chelsea or man u i will mostly have tight matches which i either win by a small margin or draw and sometimes lose. but when matched against hull or bolton or even teams like man city or aston villa i tend to win by 4, 5 and sometimes upto 9 or 10 goals with most of the goals coming from through balls with my strikers basically walking through the defensive line of the opposition. this element of the game needs fixing because it makes for a slightly boring game which only gets thrilling for 2 or 3 fixtures in one season.
GAME DEPTH IN BE A PRO MODE: this for me is one of the most important areas of the game which needs improvement. there is so much potential in be a pro mode but in terms of depth PES’s be a legend has far more to offer. in be a pro only playing for four seasons is far too short and it should span the entire career of the player. also you should play in not only the ‘world cup’ but also european cups etc with your national team. PES also have many individual awards like the Ballon d’ Or etc and when playing for your club you play not only the league but also other cups.
CONTROL SYSTEM IN BE A PRO: the button for calling for a ball, calling more defenders and urging teammates to shoot should be different from the button for passing and or playing through balls. so many times ive been in the clear and pressed Y to call for a through ball but the computer got there first passing as i called which results in my player kicking the ball ahead of himself when it gets to him. another niggle in be a pro is your player wont move after he passes the ball until the ball has reached you team mate.
TOURNAMENT MODE NEEDS MORE VARIETY AND DEPTH: why is their no option to play european cups, world cups, asian cups etc with national teams?? this is really frustrating because to play those cups you have to set it up yourself which is very time consuming.
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FA Cup Replays would be nice - something which Fifa 08 and Fifa 09 should have had.
Upload club songs - Many clubs have a song which is played after a Goal is scored in Home matches. Include a feature to upload the song for your club. EA could even make some of the songs available for download for a small fee.
Weather in Manager Mode - a must. which is actually visable in Tele cam.
Night matches - In Fifa 09, the grass looks to dull, especially in the corner area’s of the pitch. here’s a photo of a real life Night match at Old Trafford.
Different size pitch dimensions. Its rather odd that Town Park is the same size as Barcalona.
Save Goal Replays to HDD - a must.
In-game Scoreboard - Make the Scoreboard which says HOME VISITOR in some Stadiums, show the current score in the actual game instead of being blank.
In-game Goal updates - If your playing a relegation decider it adds so much more to the tension if you know what is currently happening if other important games which could decide your fate.
Responsiveness - Professional players are able to turn quickly, when turning in Fifa 09, players move to slow compared to real life.
Skill moves - The CPU teams should use skill moves especially on high difficulty levels such as World Class and Legendary.
Improved AI Free Kicks - The CPU teams on Fifa 09 are often dangerous from corners but they are very tame at free kicks even on World Class. make them much more of a threat. try to get a balance between Fifa 08 and Fifa 09.
Improved AI tactical awareness - CPU teams should make tactical substitutions based on how the game has developed rather than just making them at random. Also they should change their starting XI occasionally instead of using the same team each time.
Improved Ref AI - Make the Ref position himself on the pitch better so he doesnt get in the way of the ball as often. Also the ref should be less ‘card happy’ so players don’t get booked or sent off for no apparent reason.
Crowd Audio - If your the away team and you injure one of the oppositions players and he’s taken off, the crowd should boo when the player who commited the foul is on the ball.
Crowd Animations - More realistic reactions from fans in the Crowd. In Fifa 09, i was playing an away match and one of the players on the Home team got sent off but the shot of the crowd just showed the fans sitting still like they were at a funeral. Show the realism of passionate fans who are angry at their team going down to 10 men.
Commentary - Needs improvements to. way to many bugs. A new Commentary script would be ideal but if EA do recycle the same script please fix the bugs.
- It would be good if the Commentators mentioned the actual Cup competition in finals, rather than just having a Generic Commentary sample for all finals.
- When you sign a player who scores on his debut, the Commentator will talk about how estastic he will be to score in his first match for the club.
- When playing in 2 leg Cup tie’s, ie. the ECC knockout stages. the Commentators will be fully aware of the current situation and in the 2nd leg will talk about what is required from each team to progess. ie, if the 1st leg was 0-0 and your losing 1-0 in the 2nd leg, Martin Tylor will say ‘insert teams name’ need just one goal now to progess into the next round, can they find that vital goal from somewhere’. Then Andy Grey can put in a comment about the likelyhood of you getting a goal taking into account how the game has developed so far, how many shots you’ve had, etc…
- Occasionally talking about the League table situation and reflecting accurately on what result you need and can realistically achieve - especially when your either challenging for the title or in a relegation battle.
- If your management is poor ie, you choose a bad formation which results in you conceding a few goals they will talk about the bad tactics employed by the manager and mention exactly where it went wrong. ie, you failed to get any service to the strikers
Custom Tactics - In Fifa 09, each time you start a match it reverts back to your Default Custom tactics instead of your Saved Custom tactics. The ability to start every match without having to change it back to the Saved tactics manually would be good.
More Customization -
Goal Replays. A setting to change the length of Goal Replays and change the camera angle for when they are shown after a Goal. so you can see the build up of Goals and select your prefered camera angle.
Throw ins. A setting which ables you to choose Throw-in takers, plus a stat should be added for Throw-in takers ability.
Free kicks. The ability to move your wall from side to side when facing a free kick.
Trophy Celebrations - In Cup finals show the winning team lifting the Trophy. Makes the feeling of winning it so much better!
better whether conditions so like when its raining and the players does a slide tackle they shud have mud on them.
more premership teams stadiums
and i agree wiv astonusvilla about the anger meter so wen the players get angry wiv the ref they argue and stuff.
also i wud like to see stuff like wen there is a corner players are holding on 2 each others shirt.
also i wud like to see wen the players injured they go off a bit more realistic.
u shud be able to see the manager and subs on the bench and wen there is a sub made the players shud be interact wiv each ova and also the manager.
i think there shud be handball situation because on fifa 09 u can see the ball hit the players arms.
2. Players should react to the climates and wear gloves during winter and short sleeves etc during the summer.
3. When a player goes down injured and has to come off, the medics carry him away.
4. The simulation should be better for substitutions. You should see the two players embrace and the player coming off be congratulated by the staff. Or if he feels he shouldn't come off then he should storm down the tunnel.
5. There should be a new meter. The anger meter. Each player is given an anger rating. For example Wayne Rooney's anger point would be higher than that of Brede Hangelenad. And when the player is irritated (poor tackle made on him, or his team is losing) then there aggression gets higher. If the anger meter gets too high then they act out. As the player you have no control over the acting out, and your player could well be sent off as a result.
6. Managers and staff should be visible from the game field.
7. You should be able to edit any player on the database.
I'll leave any elaboration on what needs fixing in Manager Mode / Be A Pro online etc to everyone else (although if I were to make two suggestions to the developers in here, it'd be "completely overhaul the slow and arduous menu system" and "shamelessly copy as much of Football Manager as you legally can"). However if you want your gameplay to unquestionably trump PES then you simply must set it free.
There are a number of ways to do this. Increasing the responsiveness of the players is a given, and I very much expect this to be on EA's list already so I won't go into it.
Firstly: Dummying the ball.
Give players the ability to let the ball run through their legs while they are running. Holding R1(RB) while standing still usually (but not always??) results in the player dummying the ball. This is fine, but frankly if I had the choice I'd far sooner be able to do this while running and not while standing, than the other way around. It is also imperative that players who are in the way of long ground passes, providing they have time to react, step over the ball by default.
Time and time again I've tried to switch the ball from one wing to the other only for one of my players in the middle of the pitch to take a truly terrible touch and give possession to the other team. Why the player didn't leave the ball I have no idea, but it has cost me a couple of goals in the past. Why the player controls the ball as if he was wearing metal boots I don't know either - he could hardly have been taken by surprise by the pass and anyone who isn't a goalpost could take a neater touch than that. Why I couldn't have quickly selected that player so he could step over the ball or take a decent touch is partly covered by the poor implementation of supercancel (see below).
So in short, if a pass across the pitch isn't intended for a player (or the referee, who never steps over the ball either), make him LEAVE THE BLOODY THING ALONE!
Next up: Trap Cancel/Supercancel.
You need your version of supercancel (L2+R2) to override EVERYTHING. If I press supercancel then my player should be completely freed from the CPU spell he was under and I should then be able to choose any player I want. The number of times I've helplessly watched the selected player run after the ball from 10 yards away while the striker two yards away stands and watches, uninterested and unselectable, is shocking. At the moment you can cancel a shot or pass using supercancel, but you can't shake off this poor player selection and you end up with your right back chasing a ball that your centre back could clear easily. It really is very jarring when this happens.
More than this, you have to be able to use supercancel to confuse the opposition. This is a major part of good PES play and a major part of real football. Just ask Pele, who nearly scored a sensational goal dummying the ball while running through on goal - the keeper was left flat on his backside while the ball and Pele went around him like cartoon footprints going either side of a tree.
Corners
Simple. The manual says we can play low corners, equivalent to double and triple tapped crosses. The computer, no less, can take these. (Sorry that the vid isn't all that clear - it looked fine on my HDTV! Incidentally why no in-built replay watcher in FIFA?)
Please fix this. Frankly it should have been fixed in the patch.
Ok, last one (and this would make FIFA destroy PES).
Manual passing. Automatic passing. Manual through balls. Automatic through balls. Manual long passing. Automatic through passing. Manual shooting. Automatic shooting.
Sometimes you can't make do with just one. Manual and semi shooting suffer heavily from the simple fact that FIFA does not see the analogue sticks as 100%, 360 degree devices. They are seen more as, say, a 16-directional D-pad. This means that you can stare at your left stick and move the stick a tiny fraction to the left of centre and shoot/pass/whatever, and the ball will still go dead straight. Another tiny fraction - dead straight. Another tiny fraction - the ball goes at a significant angle to the left.
That's all very well when you're shooting at the far post, a significant angle to the left. Sadly though, it means that if the far post is a bit more central then your choices are to either shoot wide or shoot straight at the keeper. Consequently you cannot just rely on manual shooting unless you're willing to put up with the fact that you can only shoot from a certain number of positions on the pitch.
If you are anywhere else on the pitch, you'd need the computer to assist you if you want the far post to be something to aim for. This is fair enough - gamepads just aren't mice. However auto shooting is generally weaker than semi/manual shooting and the ball can often float into the stands or the welcoming arms of the keeper when a bullet shot into the top corner would have been appropriate. Similarly, auto through balls don't always go into the space you had hoped for, or not as powerfully as you'd intended, but while manual through passing can be best in this one situation, it's not so effective the rest of the time when you need to make a split second through ball to someone too far away for the power bar to charge up in time.
Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the manual toggle button.
Want to pass the ball into a particular space? Hold L2(LT) and use the left stick to aim and the button as normal to weight the pass. Immediately once you've let go you can carry on in assisted mode as usual. Want to play a long ball to space on the other wing? Hold L2 and long pass to go into manual long ball mode, or just use long pass to let the computer assist you.
This is better than PES's manual mode for two reasons. Whereas in PES you have to flick the stick for the right amount of time to correctly weight a pass/long pass, here you are using the button related to the move you want to make (pass, shoot, long ball etc). Instead of just playing the ball along the ground or in the air a la PES, you can make anything manual - headers, shots, long balls, crosses, keeper throw-outs etc.
Secondly, you are aiming with the left stick. This is being used in every second of every game you play to aim passes and shots, run into space or follow your marker. Your left thumb knows what it's doing and how to aim the stick. Your right thumb will have spent most of the game pressing non-directional buttons, occasionally wiggling the right stick to perform tricks but the only real thing your right thumb has done consistently is press a button for the right amount of time. If you suddenly have to aim with it AS WELL AS for the right amount of time then it makes short manual passing (5-10 yards) less precise than longer passing because you have a fraction of the time in which to get your aim right! By splitting the aiming to the left thumb and the time to the right thumb, the balance is restored.
Of course, manual toggle would have the opposite effect if your default settings are manual and not assisted - it'd be an assist toggle button! If you don't want to play against a toggler online, then it'd be a very easy filter to add to the controller restrictions. There is, however, absolutely no reason why assisted and non-assisted controls cannot merge together in perfect harmony, giving the player infinitely more control at the touch of a button.
Automatic through-balls are great for counter-attacking play, tapping Y to quickly play in a striker making a run, or holding down the pass to quickly play a sweeping through-ball to the opposite wing is great if you're in a hurry but it also robs you of any chance to be genuinely creative, weighing the pass to play it into space just as real-life playmakers do.
Passing in Fifa is poor for the most part, the fact that gamers are corralled into a restrictive choice between manual or automatic, (remember, there is no 'semi' option under through-balls before anyone tries to correct me... ) means you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. I won't be buying another Fifa game as long as EA persist with this passing system.
I like the 'manual toggle' idea. However I have an alternative and I think it would be better. I was going to post it in a new thread until I read your piece.
Just like your 'manual toggle' suggestion, my ideal control scheme would do away with the either/or dilemma of manual versus automatic, giving the player the best of both worlds on his game pad. Essentially we're dividing passing between a standard flat-pass option, the A button on xbox, similar to standard passing on 'semi' in Fifa 09 and a 'free pass' button, Y, which would offer players a more creative range of passing.
Keeping posession and being able to recycle the ball is vital in any football game. That's why players have to have the option of having a quick, safe pass to default to, the A button.
The 'free-pass' button would give players the following passing options:
1) Tapping Y would play an 'automatic through-ball', as it exists currently in Fifa 09, meaning we always have this quick option.
2) Holding Y would play a 'cushioned pass' to another player, stopping short of the recipient of the pass. Holding Y would increase the weight of the pass. This is similar to how through-balls currently work on manual where it is much easier to play a ball that drops short of the recipient than it is to play it ahead of him.
Football is not all about forward momentum. Playing a cushioned pass to an inside forward was the big success of manual passing for me. Tapping LB to change to the player nearest to the pass meant that I could quickly shake off my marker and drop into space to pick up the ball. This happens all the time in real-life and is a major part of the game, (Wenger's pass-and-move philosophy at Arsenal is a good example) but this sort of passing is impossible to execute on auto settings. I enjoyed using it, passing gameplay was much more interesting but it meant that when I did I had to sacrifice quick, accurate through-balls. With a 'free-pass' button or 'manual toggle' we wouldn't have this problem.
3) Double-tapping Y and holding the second tap would play a manual through-ball. The power-bar would would be tailored towards playing the ball ahead of the receiving player but we could weigh the pass and direct it into the space that we choose with the L stick. It may not be tenable without a little AI assistance in directing the pass but the satisfaction that would come from having that degree of control over passing would be immense and in my view would take this aspect of Fifa to another level.
The 'free-pass' button would apply to headers as well, being particularly useful for flick-ons, e.g. knocking the ball down to the feet of a striker or directing it into space.
Unlike your 'manual toggle' HandOfBeadle, with a 'free pass' button players would always have the option of playing a multitude of passes regardless of whether they were using 'pace control', executing a trick or sprinting down the wing. I think this keeps gameplay a bit more intuitive.
I would also like to add that 'pass and move' as it currently exists in Fifa doesn't satisfy. EA please let us control the player making the run 'off the ball', i.e. you pass, holding LB to retain control of the passer and then use one of the face buttons to control the return pass while the player in posession is computer-assisted. Again, it would be much more intuitive and would mean we wouldn't be relying on the AI to make a clever run, which it rarely does. Given that this system of calling for the pass works perfectly well in 'Be A Pro', it would be a natural fit for traditional Fifa gameplay.
Of course when it comes to shooting and crossing, players would always have the option of choosing manual etc. but 'semi' shooting and crossing always worked fine for me.
I'd like to add that I agree with you one hundred percent about players getting in the way of the ball, particularly referees, it's infuriating and a major piece of AI that needs to be improved.
I'll leave any elaboration on what needs fixing in Manager Mode / Be A Pro online etc to everyone else (although if I were to make two suggestions to the developers in here, it'd be "completely overhaul the slow and arduous menu system" and "shamelessly copy as much of Football Manager as you legally can"). However if you want your gameplay to unquestionably trump PES then you simply must set it free.
There are a number of ways to do this. Increasing the responsiveness of the players is a given, and I very much expect this to be on EA's list already so I won't go into it.
Firstly: Dummying the ball.
Give players the ability to let the ball run through their legs while they are running. Holding R1(RB) while standing still usually (but not always??) results in the player dummying the ball. This is fine, but frankly if I had the choice I'd far sooner be able to do this while running and not while standing, than the other way around. It is also imperative that players who are in the way of long ground passes, providing they have time to react, step over the ball by default.
Time and time again I've tried to switch the ball from one wing to the other only for one of my players in the middle of the pitch to take a truly terrible touch and give possession to the other team. Why the player didn't leave the ball I have no idea, but it has cost me a couple of goals in the past. Why the player controls the ball as if he was wearing metal boots I don't know either - he could hardly have been taken by surprise by the pass and anyone who isn't a goalpost could take a neater touch than that. Why I couldn't have quickly selected that player so he could step over the ball or take a decent touch is partly covered by the poor implementation of supercancel (see below).
So in short, if a pass across the pitch isn't intended for a player (or the referee, who never steps over the ball either), make him LEAVE THE BLOODY THING ALONE!
Next up: Trap Cancel/Supercancel.
You need your version of supercancel (L2+R2) to override EVERYTHING. If I press supercancel then my player should be completely freed from the CPU spell he was under and I should then be able to choose any player I want. The number of times I've helplessly watched the selected player run after the ball from 10 yards away while the striker two yards away stands and watches, uninterested and unselectable, is shocking. At the moment you can cancel a shot or pass using supercancel, but you can't shake off this poor player selection and you end up with your right back chasing a ball that your centre back could clear easily. It really is very jarring when this happens.
More than this, you have to be able to use supercancel to confuse the opposition. This is a major part of good PES play and a major part of real football. Just ask Pele, who nearly scored a sensational goal dummying the ball while running through on goal - the keeper was left flat on his backside while the ball and Pele went around him like cartoon footprints going either side of a tree.
Corners
Simple. The manual says we can play low corners, equivalent to double and triple tapped crosses. The computer, no less, can take these. (Sorry that the vid isn't all that clear - it looked fine on my HDTV! Incidentally why no in-built replay watcher in FIFA?)
Please fix this. Frankly it should have been fixed in the patch.
Ok, last one (and this would make FIFA destroy PES).
Manual passing. Automatic passing. Manual through balls. Automatic through balls. Manual long passing. Automatic through passing. Manual shooting. Automatic shooting.
Sometimes you can't make do with just one. Manual and semi shooting suffer heavily from the simple fact that FIFA does not see the analogue sticks as 100%, 360 degree devices. They are seen more as, say, a 16-directional D-pad. This means that you can stare at your left stick and move the stick a tiny fraction to the left of centre and shoot/pass/whatever, and the ball will still go dead straight. Another tiny fraction - dead straight. Another tiny fraction - the ball goes at a significant angle to the left.
That's all very well when you're shooting at the far post, a significant angle to the left. Sadly though, it means that if the far post is a bit more central then your choices are to either shoot wide or shoot straight at the keeper. Consequently you cannot just rely on manual shooting unless you're willing to put up with the fact that you can only shoot from a certain number of positions on the pitch.
If you are anywhere else on the pitch, you'd need the computer to assist you if you want the far post to be something to aim for. This is fair enough - gamepads just aren't mice. However auto shooting is generally weaker than semi/manual shooting and the ball can often float into the stands or the welcoming arms of the keeper when a bullet shot into the top corner would have been appropriate. Similarly, auto through balls don't always go into the space you had hoped for, or not as powerfully as you'd intended, but while manual through passing can be best in this one situation, it's not so effective the rest of the time when you need to make a split second through ball to someone too far away for the power bar to charge up in time.
Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the manual toggle button.
Want to pass the ball into a particular space? Hold L2(LT) and use the left stick to aim and the button as normal to weight the pass. Immediately once you've let go you can carry on in assisted mode as usual. Want to play a long ball to space on the other wing? Hold L2 and long pass to go into manual long ball mode, or just use long pass to let the computer assist you.
This is better than PES's manual mode for two reasons. Whereas in PES you have to flick the stick for the right amount of time to correctly weight a pass/long pass, here you are using the button related to the move you want to make (pass, shoot, long ball etc). Instead of just playing the ball along the ground or in the air a la PES, you can make anything manual - headers, shots, long balls, crosses, keeper throw-outs etc.
Secondly, you are aiming with the left stick. This is being used in every second of every game you play to aim passes and shots, run into space or follow your marker. Your left thumb knows what it's doing and how to aim the stick. Your right thumb will have spent most of the game pressing non-directional buttons, occasionally wiggling the right stick to perform tricks but the only real thing your right thumb has done consistently is press a button for the right amount of time. If you suddenly have to aim with it AS WELL AS for the right amount of time then it makes short manual passing (5-10 yards) less precise than longer passing because you have a fraction of the time in which to get your aim right! By splitting the aiming to the left thumb and the time to the right thumb, the balance is restored.
Of course, manual toggle would have the opposite effect if your default settings are manual and not assisted - it'd be an assist toggle button! If you don't want to play against a toggler online, then it'd be a very easy filter to add to the controller restrictions. There is, however, absolutely no reason why assisted and non-assisted controls cannot merge together in perfect harmony, giving the player infinitely more control at the touch of a button.
As a former pro evo player myself (i actually learned japanese/katakana to translate player names in winning eleven!!!) i couldn't agree more on these proposals...
Especially the Manual-Toggle button is such a good idea it's frightening how none of the great minds that create footie games hasn't thought of it before. But in their defense, i guess it might be difficult to program something like that.
As for the Supercancel (which in a way provides the 'freedom' you mentioned before...), it's probably the only thing i miss from pro evo nowadays.
I'm a guy who mostly plays offline so the manager mode of FIFA 2010 better be as close to Football Manager or even Fifa Manager in regards of simulation/career with the great fifa gameplay added of course.
In total I think that your thread was ABSOLUTELY spot on!
Just hope someone will notice it.
I'll leave any elaboration on what needs fixing in Manager Mode / Be A Pro online etc to everyone else (although if I were to make two suggestions to the developers in here, it'd be "completely overhaul the slow and arduous menu system" and "shamelessly copy as much of Football Manager as you legally can"). However if you want your gameplay to unquestionably trump PES then you simply must set it free.
There are a number of ways to do this. Increasing the responsiveness of the players is a given, and I very much expect this to be on EA's list already so I won't go into it.
Firstly: Dummying the ball.
Give players the ability to let the ball run through their legs while they are running. Holding R1(RB) while standing still usually (but not always??) results in the player dummying the ball. This is fine, but frankly if I had the choice I'd far sooner be able to do this while running and not while standing, than the other way around. It is also imperative that players who are in the way of long ground passes, providing they have time to react, step over the ball by default.
Time and time again I've tried to switch the ball from one wing to the other only for one of my players in the middle of the pitch to take a truly terrible touch and give possession to the other team. Why the player didn't leave the ball I have no idea, but it has cost me a couple of goals in the past. Why the player controls the ball as if he was wearing metal boots I don't know either - he could hardly have been taken by surprise by the pass and anyone who isn't a goalpost could take a neater touch than that. Why I couldn't have quickly selected that player so he could step over the ball or take a decent touch is partly covered by the poor implementation of supercancel (see below).
So in short, if a pass across the pitch isn't intended for a player (or the referee, who never steps over the ball either), make him LEAVE THE BLOODY THING ALONE!
Next up: Trap Cancel/Supercancel.
You need your version of supercancel (L2+R2) to override EVERYTHING. If I press supercancel then my player should be completely freed from the CPU spell he was under and I should then be able to choose any player I want. The number of times I've helplessly watched the selected player run after the ball from 10 yards away while the striker two yards away stands and watches, uninterested and unselectable, is shocking. At the moment you can cancel a shot or pass using supercancel, but you can't shake off this poor player selection and you end up with your right back chasing a ball that your centre back could clear easily. It really is very jarring when this happens.
More than this, you have to be able to use supercancel to confuse the opposition. This is a major part of good PES play and a major part of real football. Just ask Pele, who nearly scored a sensational goal dummying the ball while running through on goal - the keeper was left flat on his backside while the ball and Pele went around him like cartoon footprints going either side of a tree.
Corners
Simple. The manual says we can play low corners, equivalent to double and triple tapped crosses. The computer, no less, can take these. (Sorry that the vid isn't all that clear - it looked fine on my HDTV! Incidentally why no in-built replay watcher in FIFA?)
Please fix this. Frankly it should have been fixed in the patch.
Ok, last one (and this would make FIFA destroy PES).
Manual passing. Automatic passing. Manual through balls. Automatic through balls. Manual long passing. Automatic through passing. Manual shooting. Automatic shooting.
Sometimes you can't make do with just one. Manual and semi shooting suffer heavily from the simple fact that FIFA does not see the analogue sticks as 100%, 360 degree devices. They are seen more as, say, a 16-directional D-pad. This means that you can stare at your left stick and move the stick a tiny fraction to the left of centre and shoot/pass/whatever, and the ball will still go dead straight. Another tiny fraction - dead straight. Another tiny fraction - the ball goes at a significant angle to the left.
That's all very well when you're shooting at the far post, a significant angle to the left. Sadly though, it means that if the far post is a bit more central then your choices are to either shoot wide or shoot straight at the keeper. Consequently you cannot just rely on manual shooting unless you're willing to put up with the fact that you can only shoot from a certain number of positions on the pitch.
If you are anywhere else on the pitch, you'd need the computer to assist you if you want the far post to be something to aim for. This is fair enough - gamepads just aren't mice. However auto shooting is generally weaker than semi/manual shooting and the ball can often float into the stands or the welcoming arms of the keeper when a bullet shot into the top corner would have been appropriate. Similarly, auto through balls don't always go into the space you had hoped for, or not as powerfully as you'd intended, but while manual through passing can be best in this one situation, it's not so effective the rest of the time when you need to make a split second through ball to someone too far away for the power bar to charge up in time.
Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the manual toggle button.
Want to pass the ball into a particular space? Hold L2(LT) and use the left stick to aim and the button as normal to weight the pass. Immediately once you've let go you can carry on in assisted mode as usual. Want to play a long ball to space on the other wing? Hold L2 and long pass to go into manual long ball mode, or just use long pass to let the computer assist you.
This is better than PES's manual mode for two reasons. Whereas in PES you have to flick the stick for the right amount of time to correctly weight a pass/long pass, here you are using the button related to the move you want to make (pass, shoot, long ball etc). Instead of just playing the ball along the ground or in the air a la PES, you can make anything manual - headers, shots, long balls, crosses, keeper throw-outs etc.
Secondly, you are aiming with the left stick. This is being used in every second of every game you play to aim passes and shots, run into space or follow your marker. Your left thumb knows what it's doing and how to aim the stick. Your right thumb will have spent most of the game pressing non-directional buttons, occasionally wiggling the right stick to perform tricks but the only real thing your right thumb has done consistently is press a button for the right amount of time. If you suddenly have to aim with it AS WELL AS for the right amount of time then it makes short manual passing (5-10 yards) less precise than longer passing because you have a fraction of the time in which to get your aim right! By splitting the aiming to the left thumb and the time to the right thumb, the balance is restored.
Of course, manual toggle would have the opposite effect if your default settings are manual and not assisted - it'd be an assist toggle button! If you don't want to play against a toggler online, then it'd be a very easy filter to add to the controller restrictions. There is, however, absolutely no reason why assisted and non-assisted controls cannot merge together in perfect harmony, giving the player infinitely more control at the touch of a button.
in the new fifa it should add:
1.Customize player( untuck or tuck shirt, shoest, etc;)
2.add more leagues and teams like Japan and ivory coast
3.create player (for the psp cause it not in ad that s***!)
4.and realistic crowds like chuck rubbish when something wrong
4.5. i don't know for others but in psp when u whin a cup ur team jumps armournd for joy and la di da and then there is no cup WTF!!!!!!
5.add new tourneys like UEFA, World cup etc
PLease Fifia listen to all these comments by fifa fans and at least agree with some!!!! =)
1.add international competions(world cup, AFCON, copa america etc.)
2.Add better players to the classic XI like Maradona and Pele, they're legends!!!
3.have a different player on the cover-ronaldinho and rooney are getting a little stale
4.Arena mode should be multiplayer
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All Premier League and some Championship Stadiums
Add the World Cup to tournament mode
Create a Stadium mode
Be the Ref mode
More leagues
A complete recreation of all football chants ( except the racist ones obviously )
Option to moisten pitches before games
Snow
Better commentary - like they actually know what is happening i.e when you miss a one-on-one they
tell you what an idiot you are for missing it.
All club competitions ( yes even the 'tin-pot' ones that liverpool never get into like the cup winners cup
etc )
Better in-game music
More realistic stadiums
A DIVE button
more control over everything
a chairman mode - and jet off on nice holidays to the seychelles whoops i meant fact-finding missions
Oh and :
A recession like the one that is happening in england ( for ultra realism )
Stupidly Rich oil barons that you unlock after like 10 seasons or something
and finally :
the ability to do "backhand" deals to get the player we want ( with the chance of getting caught for
fraud!!!!! :D )
it might seem like im taking theh mickey but i reckon that these things would make it a great game
and also more fun :-)
oh and one more thing - the A.I ( artificial intelligence ) learns your specific tactics so that you are
constantly having to come up with new innovative ideas - in real life the opposition learns your
favourite tactics so why not the computer?
(completely redesign the free kick taking)- allow up to 3 players at once when taking free kick like in real life match. anyone in these 3 players can run and kick d ball n also making a fake shot allow players behind to take d kick.... i'm very dislike d current free kick system with only 2 players nt only that.. but the 2nd taker just stand there n kick the ball across d goal.... this is very unrealistic....
(redesign d 3d net)- d net in ps3 version is fantastic.. bt in pc is very awful....
(redesign d dribbling physics)- this is d most bothering problem... d physics never changed since 07 series... maybe nt... bt is unnoticeable change.... another good job in ps3... yet another dissapointed part for pc....
(untucked jersey)- a great point in ps3... bt why don't u make it 4 pc?
(passing system)- i hate d fact that in pc d players tend to use more their weaker foot to pass the ball rather than use their stronger 1....
(shooting system)- it has x the realistic feel like in ps3...
(crowd)- very2 ugly in pc...
(commentary)- martin tyler n andy gray is d best commentators partnership on d planet so is good to hav them on pc 2.....
(video)- all players coming out from the same tunnels at all stadium is ridiculous... change it.... n also when d substitution is made.... its very boring cz its never changed in pc....
i hope... these features will be done n finalised when d next edition of fifa coming out...
i tel u... i am a big fan of fifa.... so plz don't make me to change that... i'm speaking out as representing whole fifa pc gamers on d planet... thank you....
1.if you want to make a crazy curve you have to press a certain button ex roberto carloses curve goals.
2.it should have fights in it if someone gets mad and that they fight.
3.injury time should last more longer like in real life.
4.if you want to do a backheel pass or shot you have to press L2 and press pass or shot.
5.there should be a training mode.
6.the players should play like their own selfs ex if beckham kicks the freekick it should more likely be a goal and that.
7.there should be a manager showing in the sideline.
8.the players should sweat in the hot sunny day or get wet in the rainy day.
9.all of the players should have a real face and boot.
10.if its night it should rain and stop and in summer it should get darker.
11.crowds should be realer.
12.graphics should be better than it is.
13.the gameplay should be realer than it is.
14.if its a english league the commentater should talk english and if its a turkish league the commentater should talk turkish.
15.you should pick who to come up for corners.
16.the cutscenes should look like real life.
17.if someone shots and misses the crowd should say oooohhhhh and if someone does a skill the crowd should clap and if its a last minute goal the crowd should go crazy.
18.there should be all the real stadiums.
19.fix all the bugs and gliches.
i hope they put these in FIFA2010 thanks for reading
Practice Mode- ability to take freekicks, set pieces and PKs as a team (not just the single player in the opening load menu)
More fields and leagues (Russian and Ukraine)
ECC being renamed Champions League in the game
More international squads
More realistic be-a-pro season options (longer than 4 years, ability to make money and buy objects such as cleats..etc...just a thought)
LONG TERM INJURIES (sure it's not good for your team, but it'd be nice to see the realistic challenges of being a manager)
Real sponsors and realistic payouts ( i get paid $1,000,000 a match when i'm the manager at Chelsea, and $500,000 sponsor payout as manager at Chester(small League 2 side))
Managers and subs on the bench
Realistic crowds
Consistent cards and handballs
REFS WHO SOMETIME MISS OFFSIDE CALLS (im tired of every game there being a call by half a centimeter..thats not realistic!)
Great game and i love it...but if all these were put in place..there's no way I could put it down
Practice Mode- ability to take freekicks, set pieces and PKs as a team (not just the single player in the opening load menu)
More fields and leagues (Russian and Ukraine)
ECC being renamed Champions League in the game
More international squads
More realistic be-a-pro season options (longer than 4 years, ability to make money and buy objects such as cleats..etc...just a thought)
LONG TERM INJURIES (sure it's not good for your team, but it'd be nice to see the realistic challenges of being a manager)
Real sponsors and realistic payouts ( i get paid $1,000,000 a match when i'm the manager at Chelsea, and $500,000 sponsor payout as manager at Chester(small League 2 side))
Managers and subs on the bench
Realistic crowds
Consistent cards and handballs
REFS WHO SOMETIME MISS OFFSIDE CALLS (im tired of every game there being a call by half a centimeter..thats not realistic!)
Great game and i love it...but if all these were put in place..there's no way I could put it down
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