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PLEASE READ THIS FIFA PRODUCERS.LETS START WITH:
1)more stadiums- like put the first 10 team's stadiums in each league.
2)realistic crowd and make them react to ex: miss a close chance, on the bar chance,a fumble by a golie. let them chant the official chants of every team.let them react when they are frustrated.
3)when a player get injured let the medics come and take him off. and when he gets a bad hit let the medics stay on the field and heal him.
4)let the clock run down like a real match on tv. not like when it is a goalkick the time stops or when a player is injured the time stops or when taking a freek kick.
5)if a player is wasting time let the ref give him a card. or if a players keeps the ball with him so the opposite team doesnt take their set piece right away that player should be carded.
6)let more frustration take part in players during a game ex:like fighting, argueing.
7)derby games should be diffrent than normal game ex:more aggressive,more cards shown,more fans chants and critics, more noise in the stadium.
8)manager mode needs to have:more board expectations,each team should get expectations according to the teams position(westbrom should be expected to finish not less than 15th)
9)there should be trading players.
10)if a 19th position team buys fabregas he will not be playing as first team, that should be fixed, so if stoke buy adebayor he should be first choice.
11)goalkeeprs are too strong at saving a 30yard shot, let is be easier for a player to score a 30yard goal or further.
12)signature celebrations should be viewed after a goal.
13)if a player is injured and its gona take time for him to heal on the pitch let the goals be replayed or the dangerous chances missed while the player is being cured.
14)substitution should be shown fully until the player leaves to sit on the bench.and if the player had a bad game let him run down the tunnel.
15)managers shouting to players and tactics changing that should be in as well.
16)if a stadium is upgraded then the income of tickets should be higher than it used to be.
17)make linesmen somtimes have wrong calls on an offside or a foul. and take wrong call if the ball did not pass the line.that will be very interesting.
18)make it possible to save the goals on the hard drives.
19)more pulling t-shirts,tackling,pushing.
20)AND THE MOST IMPORTANT IS THE COMENTATOR, LET HIM TALK ABOUT THE TEAMS RECENT FORM, RECENT BUYING, RECENT INJURIES,PLAYERS MISSING,HIS OPPINION ON THE GAME AND HIS PREDICTIONS, AS WELL AS DISAGREEING WITH ACTIONS TAKEN AND CALLS TAKENS.
21)better advantages taken by refs.
22)AND MAKE FIFA ULTIMATE AFFORDABLE OR EVEN FOR FREE.
Have AFC Champions League
Guys,all fifa needs to be the total football game is the actual footballs details.And I explain below:
1.)Why would I have to go to the exhibition menu to set the time of day to play the game??Why every game has to be at day for example?why not big games or champions league games are set at day time?Why wouldnt a game start at dusk and finish at night like most games?that would create a great atmosphere.
2.)Why doesnt fifa have handball rule?
3.)why do offsides have to be so accurate even by a millimetre advantage the flag goes up.why arent referee mistakes included and everything has to be computerized?The game is too predictable.
4.)World class and LEgendary levels are stupidly difficult.Its not that they are hard to play,its that they ruin ur game in order to be difficult.all passes go wrong when cpus passes are so accurate.
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL
FIFA SHOULD NOT HAVE DIFFICULTY LEVELS.
If someone has Barcelona or Man Utd they should play like them and not like for example play Man Utd vs Preston in legendary,and Preston plays like a WORLD CLASS TEAM.THE TEAMS STATS AND PLAYERS ABILITIES ARE PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY LIKE THEY DO.AND THIS IS HOW REALITY IS.PRESTON CANT PLAY LIKE A WORLD CLASS TEAM.
If someone has preston to play then it should be automatically on world class for example because u have a crappy team.Big clubs should just be easier to play because they have the best players.Its ridiculus to have Barcelona on legendary or world class and play a cup game vs a lower division team and that team behaves better than the actual barcelona,their players to be faster harder to steal the ball and feel like u have the worst team ever,when all ur teams stats are above 90 and the opponents below 60.
AMATEUR-SEMIPRO-PROFESSIONAL-WORLD CLASS-LEGENDARY are the FIFAS worst gameplay idea EA ever had.Lionel Messi CANT run slower than a 2nd division team at any level.ITS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. JUST MAKE THE GAME REAL.
Should have Serbia on it, More clubs more players, more stadiums and a World cup feature:D
I need:
1) more different options in manager mode
2) Ukranian League
3) more realistic deffence play from the AI. Sometimes its too easy to beat them
Thank you!
Please create a stats screen!!! So if you example play 2 vs 2 you can see who(wich coluor) gets the most passes/shots/other things completed. Also the 2vs2 - 3vs3 have to be more fixed lots of bugs when changing players and other stuff....
to see after you won a cup were you collect your trophy with new kits and new balls and new degins
u need a manger or tornament mode that will include international teams, its no good if u cant play ith ur fav england players in a cup
more realistic on the Wii
The second league of Turkey and Holland
A new cover with Ronaldo and Messi.
i miss real madrid stadium,santiago bernabeu.
have a player of the year award
The AFC Australasia Champions League should be put in
-What about a slow-mo option so when your playing and use a trick it slows down. (like hold L2 when doing a skill or trick)
-A type of UEFA System so you can bring your skills to Europe
- Before a match you can select a player from the other side that you can watch most threw the game or your scout can have a monthly check up on some chosen players from other clubs.
-More customization threw the game like make a player
-New Boots.
-P.C to PSP link up if that could be done.
-When In manager mode and if you book a training you can play threw the training with like Mini games or Juggling
-Make play a youth Academy mode so can start right from the start.
-5 A side Mini game maybe and make your own 5 a side dream team.
-Russian Clubs
-manager lay out like when you start it should have a creative option screen.
-Grass Roots Football some how.
-World Club Cup
-Manager Side Line option like you see the game from a Managers view and you can shout stuff out and give advise or talk to the medical staff.
-FIFA 10 link up to World Cup 2010 game.I Hope you read my suggestions. :)
online club mode should be more like club mode on NHL 09 where u can put yourself in the game online.
Victor Hertel
the gameplay in fifa 09 was good.

but I think there are things to be improved

- Should be more difficult to do successfuly tackles.because in the midfield the game is very locked

the proportions of the field should be larger
the players should dribble with ease and more able to dribble with tight little space.
the kicks should rise less
goalkeeper a little worse
and improved AI

now on another aspect of the game.
the manager mode should have a schedule of games more realistic

transfer with more realistic values

this is the basic
and if it is done it will be a good improvement!

owww….and in the manager mode…
should have trophy for player with more assistences…
and the player who won trophys should have his price increased
have themes for the back round of the main title screen of your favorite teams you should make it more about the team that you love that would make me just wanna turn the game on lol
I would love to see these elements in the game

. improved customisation

- more choice of boots and ability to create your own in a boot editor
- taped ankles and socks (like ronaldo, torres etc have them)
- Short, medium and long socks (i.e over the knee)
- More realistic names on the back of the shirt (sometimes look out of proportion in 09)
- have signigture celebrations for players (e.g nani flip, anelka 'A' sign etc)
-also when performing your celebration after scoring you should be able to see it from close up camera angles which keep changing
- put your own face in the game
- better animations for player sprints i.e there should be different types of runners

Gameplay and little additions - more realism

-general gameplay is great
-corners shouldn't be dominated by defenders as much
-need to add in players pulling shirts
- should have a dive button (for use in different situations, i.e being pulled back, flying past someone at speed, jostling in the air, or even diving after a bad touch)
-goalkeepers shouldn't be able to read free kicks as well as they do.
-have the option of bringing your own player to stand in the oppositions wall and then command him to move when the ball is struck
-players should make more off the ball runs with wing backs overlapping more, (such as evra, A. Cole and Clichy doo for their clubs.
Xbox 360 needs to have more options for game modes other than Live.
1) Create a Team and Stadium
2) More create a player options
3) Maneger mode schould be much better
- Able to change players nubers
- Transfers are more realistic, i dont want to be able to get Cristiano do with Wigan
4) More Shoes
5) More Teams, Nigeria, Serbia, Cote de Voire, Russian League
6) Better gameplay
- Advantage Rule is very bad
- Goal Keepers are very bad
* Dive for slow bouncing balls
* Punch floating crosses
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How about a much more sensitive motion stick; have several speeds that you can move at depending on how far off axis you push the LS, also more then 8 directions of motion, how about 16? 32? 360?

Man Marking needs to be improved greatly

Create a stadium

make it so you can improve your create a player somehow

Create a celebration

No cutaway scenes for throw-ins, just pick it up and throw it, or free kicks where there is no wall, because generaly the ball is just passed up immediately after a foul outside shooting distance in real life.

The crowd and cutaway scenes need a lot of improvements, but others have addressed them well, my main one is different people wearing the jerseys and colors of the two teams playing. There should be a clear away contingent and they should freak out if the away team scores.

Computer AI needs to be better in single player, sometimes I feel like I'm playing with a MLS team when I'm playing on professional with 5 star teams, guys near the ball need to be able to run at balls that are near them even if I can't switch to them.

The idea of having a manual button for passing/crossing/through balls/shooting is brilliant

Make it possible to lock jukestick to vertical so that you can always do tricks like you do in the arena, or change the arena to the camera you use during the game.

Be a pro could use a first person camera angle. I know, it's crazy, but just go with it.

Referee intelligence needs to be improved and players need to know when some challenge of great importance has happened and react to it

FACIAL EXPRESSIONS! these guys don't care at all about scoring goals it seems.

That's all I got for now
when the player is right on line with the defender and receiving the through ball keep them onside its happened to me son many times and has cost me dearly sometimes is one of my rare loses not being cocky my records 360 sumthing to 62 losses
- For the fans to sing chants relevant to the team - To assist with boosting morale of the team
better graphic....and of cours gameplay .make it all like on ps3...please.
ratings…after match…online tournaments with freinds and saving that
it would be good if :

in manager mode you were able to rrange friendlies and training session
and have more realistic board expectations (e.g. if you go stoke you are not expected to win the premier league!)
if after an important game you have a press conference and comment n the match
Have a youth academy
Team fallouts and fights
Team talks and individual player talks
finally if during manager mode, you're club could be bought buy other people.

General gameplay:
eaiser to do tricks (e.g. ronaldo and messi could do lots of stepovers eaisly)
have a fitness level at every match so you know what players to play

Some of thers are in fifa 08 for the ps2 but it would be great if you had theses for fifa 2010 for the xbox 360 and ps3!
Took these great ideas from Ahmer 50 in the FIFA Forums:

FIFA 2010 Wishlist

Gameplay:

The Advantage Rule- FIFA 09 brought in one of the biggest rules of the game, the advantage rule. The only problem is that it doesnt use it properly, I never get the advantage, and when the computer gets it, 40 minutes later, I get booked for my tackle. Slide tackles need to be made more realistic, and a bit of physicality needs to be allowed. Plus, the player should also be able to get the advantage.

Crosses- The crossing system was ruined in FIFA09, I have had the game since release and play wide a lot, yet, I have never scored a header from a cross. In FIFA08, because of the way I played, I scored a lot from crosses, the system was very good. FIFA 10 needs to re-implement the crossing system of FIFA 08.

Free Kicks- The free kicks were much improved in FIFA 09, but they arent exactly realistic yet. It is much too hard to get a free kick to dip or curve, and the regular freekick will almost never be on target. I know that there are people who score a lot from free kicks, but the system needs to be more friendly to the average gamer.

Thrown-Ins- FIFA 10 needs to introduce the ability to pick your throw in taker. There need to be variations of throws too, Rory Delaps long throw is a definate inclusion. If you have that, you can even create plays from throw ins much like Stoke City did earlier in the season.

Long Range Shots- In FIFA09, I have only scored from outside of the box a few times. Whilst players often get their goals from outside of the box. Long Range shots need to be fine tuned so they are on target more often than not. Nothing is more annoying than missing a 30-yd sitter because the FIFA09 long range shot is off target.

Commentary- The biggest dissappointment of the game by far, its basically 08 commentary version 1.1, EA Sports needs and I mean needs to get in new commentary for FIFA 10, I know its a bit late, so maybe push back the release date into a bit, and completely re-do the commentary system? I know I would be willing to wait longer for a game if the game included something re-done completely.

Save Replays To Hard Drive- In Order To Let Us Get More Highlights, Please Let Us Save Our Highlights To Our Hard Drives.

Control The Goalkeeper- In FIFA 08 for PS2, It was possible to switch players to the goalkeeper while the opposition was attacking, meaning you could save the shot, make it available to next gen players, we pay more, and get less.

Additions:

More Leagues- I know that its extremely hard to add new teams to the game, but FIFA 10 needs to include new teams just like every game did before 09. I know that EA used to add 3 leagues, so I will say that 3 of the following should be added to the game. The Russian League, The Argentenian League, The German Third Division, The Spanish Third Division, The Italian Third Division, The Greek League , and The United Soccer League.

More Stadiums- FIFA has been pretty poor when it comes to stadiums. I think FIFA needs to include atleast 10 new stadiums in FIFA 2010. It gets boring playing at the same ground over and over. Since stadium licenses are hard to get, maybe 5 more generic ones too? I could easily picture a few more generic grounds making a big difference.

FIFA 10 Ultimate Team- Ultimate Team mode should be on the disc starting from next season. Some people arent as affording as EA would like. Make it accessible to everyone.

Theater Mode- A mode where you can go look at you last game and upload parts to EAFW. I really think this is necessary so we dont have to keep pausing.

Be-A-Pro Mode:

The B-A-P Mode- Be a pro was by far, the biggest sucess in FIFA 09. I like the current format, but we need to be able to play for 15 seasons like in manager mode. Also, what is the nonsense about starting at your choice of club? If you really want to be a pro, they should have it longer.

Local League- You should get to pick a country and league before starting off in FIFA 10’s Be A Pro Mode, here you play on a completely random team of random fake young players, then, after like 5 games, clubs evaluate you and you get offers to join academys based on your performances. The effect of the city you choose is that you are more likely to get an offer from a team in that city.

January Transfers- I am not sure if you can transfer away from a team mid-season in FIFA 09’s B-A-P mode, you should be able to though? Let us go to a bigger team midseason if we are doing well in the season.

Transfer Requests- This is a must, when players get mad or bored, they submit transfer requests right? Well, B-A-P should allow you to do so. If I want to leave Stockport County, then why cant I?

Manager Mode:

Weather- In real life, football matches are played at different times in different weather. FIFA 2009 introduced weather and day and night. FIFA 2010 must have these things added to manager mode. The weather and time of day should be appropriate to the type of game and month when its taking place. For example, a Champions League game in December should take place in a snowy night, while a Premier League game in October should take place in rainy day around noon.

Transfers- In the past FIFA games, there have been rediculous transfers and bids in manager mode. Inter Milan would not bid for Rory Delap, and Lionel Messi would never go to Wycombe Wanderers. Each team needs to buy realistically. That brings me to another subject, computers need to buy more, and when they buy, the players should play some part in their team. If Wycombe did buy Messi, I doubt he would be in the reserves.

Form- Player form should have more of an effect on how someone plays as well as their rating. I can score 35 goals with Rory Delap, and his rating stays a measly 73, it just doesnt add up. Also, I buy Didier Drogba, he is the top scorer for Chelsea with 30 goals, I use him alongside a team of 90+ players and he fails to score, his form should have had some effect.

Squad Numbers- Bring back the ability to change the shirt numbers of your players, the patch for 09 did make them take more realistic numbers, but the power to assign shirt numbers is something that is important to every manager, so bring that feature back as fast as possible!!!

Money- The amount of money we get through sponsorship is nice and all, but there are many more factors to finances such as TV Money and others. These should be incorporated into manager mode to increase the amount of cash you make so that you can spend more on transfer fees that are more realistic. Lassana Diarra is around 3 million in manager mode whereas Real Madrid payed 20 million for him, increase the prices to be more realistic!!!

Stadiums- When we upgrade our stadium level, we should get to play at a larger generic ground. This can be easily resolved with a stadium level rating. If you have a stadium level of 5, you can play at stadium X, which makes you around 500,000 per game from ticket sales, but if you upgrade it to 6, you play at stadium Y, where you make 600,000 from ticket sales.

Preseason Friendlies- I remember when I had FIFA 08 on PS2, I had the option of scheduling 4 preseason matches before my league campaign, not only did it give me time to sign players, I could sort out my ideal formation before the season started, much as real coaches do with their friendlies.

Injuries- Players need to get injured more often like in Real life. More injuries should occur, and injured players should be taken off the pitch, they shouldnt lie there while they heal.

Trophies- After you win a trophy, you should be able to see it in your players hands. It just makes you feel extra happy by seeing what you accomplished.

Managing International Teams- It would be awesome if we could manage international teams, if licenses to actual tournaments cant be obtained, then maybe in generic tournaments meant to resemble the real ones, like ECC and EFA.

Club World Cup- FIFA09 included most major competitions that big teams played in, except the world club championship. I realise that all of the continents dont have teams in the game, so maybe 2 could come from some places in a generic competition meant to resemble the cup.

Mid-Season Offers: What do teams do when there manager is doing horrible, they sack him and offer other managers the job right? We should get offers to manage other clubs midseason, so basically, we stay where we are in the season, just as a different club.

Resignations: You should have the ability to quit your club midseason, and find a different club to join, and continue from where you were, no need to forward till the end of the season.

Getting Sacked: If you get fired by your club, instead of a game over screen, you should get a screen of offers from other clubs. When you join the club, you should continue from where you were when you got sacked.

Expectations: There must be more realistic expectations from managers, if Im Stoke, 15th should be great at christmas, I shouldnt get sacked for that. If I am Manchester United, 16th in October should get me sacked. Expectations need to vary from club to club based on star rating.

Other Continental Championships: The CONCACAF Champions League and Copa Libatadoras should be added in FIFA 09, even if they only have rest of world teams, or multiple teams from the same country too. They make non-european teams fun to use.

Loans: More loan deals should be possible. If a player isnt playing, or his club isnt where it should be, he should be able to switch teams on loan. In FIFA 09, even the highest offer sent multiple times wont be able to get you your target, this needs fixing.

Buys: If you want to buy a player, you shouldnt get a message stating that the other team doesnt have enough players, if they have like 35 players. Be more reasonable FIFA!!!

More realistic league standings: After one season, Inter Milan should not get relegated and Lecce should not be in the champions league. League tables need to be a lot more realistic.
have handballs, long throwins (like a free kick kind of thing) near the box(best will be rory delap)
make more realistic, online manager mode (1v1 season?) online pro seasons(probably to make some kind of real world of football)
FIFA 09 problems:

*The goalkeeper needs perfection. Sometimes the goalie does not seem to be intelligent enough in picking up the balls; that is, sometimes he doesn't know if he should go for the ball or not. What also happens is that instead of catching the ball (which he can easily do), he punches it.

*Please fix the graphics around the pitch (especially the crowd). This is not PS2! This is PS3!

*Please DO update the age of every player.

*Adidas Live Season is amazing but updates the level of players by 5, 7, -5 or -7 points (most of the time). There needs to be a more realistic way of updating the players' level. Also please include the champions league and uefa cup in your player level updates. Also please extend adidas live season to the south american football and possibly the north american football too.

Note: There is no need to take anything from FIFA 08 and put it in FIFA 10 as some people say (FIFA 09 has remarkably killed all FIFA 08's problems).
extend be a pro mode so you can start off at a non leauge team and work you way up to he top of football and be able to chose to retire when ever you choose to. and stop the stupid updates where players skills change on the game after every match they play in real life.
Ivory Coast!
add an online tournament mode or online lounge mode to play with friends over the internet.

improve the manager mode so you dont have to play the match but you can watch over it and change the tactics and make subs, maybe in a 2d pitch view like other manager games.

indoor football matches?
1) The real dutch national team ( I know the KNVB doensn't allows it, but please keep trying!)
2) Training mode
3) More real faces in the dutch competition and other competitions
4) Just do your thing and I know this will become one of the best Fifa's all time!
You need to imrpove the freekicks, too hard as if you make no adjustments ie curve or drive it will also miss goal. I also think you should bring back the chance to play INDOORS! this happened in FIFA 98 and should happen again in this, i know you have brought out fifa street but to have this as a spare option on fifa without the skills etc it would be a great addition. This was the biggest reason fifa 98 was so loved! Or if not atleast buy the rights for the Masters football and bring out a game based on that with all the legends eg rush, barnes!
make were u can train on the training grounds and pratice and sign autograph when getting off the bus
make like brazilian dribble different from english like ronaldo and john carew
make were u can use the different parts of ur foot like inside out side. and make the pass curve and go straight make them look more realistic.and when u lob the ball make it curve and make the shots more real like curve better and driven shots from far away.let it be suprising to shot far away on the goalie
hello, i wont to see the uefa champions league in the fifa 10, and very good graphics,more leagues, we need to add other menus to the game, and add to much for the manager mode
THE DUDGEONATOR
I think that when you choose the sponsor for your team at the begining of every season on manager mode this sponosr should go onto the shirt and about the shirts, i think that you should get a coice of 3 kits tat are made p of different kits just so you kit for that season chages every season, co- op manager mode sounds good and you should create your own celebration
I think they should:
- Put official Brazilian league A and B divisions.
- Put new boots.
- When the players injures himself, the assistants should enter in the field.
- The crowd should be better.
- Manager Mode:
- The option to change the players kits numbers must be back.
- The other teams´s players shouldn´t get the number 2, except if they are defensive midfielders, central backs or side backs.
- The Youth Academy must be back.
- The weather could change troughout the season.
- Pre-season Friendilies could be back.
- Big clubs should make bids only for big players or with great future, maybe one or two normal players but with nice ratings.
- Small clubs should want low price players with lower salary per game. (Palermo can´t have Messi).
on the psp the nets on the goals are rubbish so they need to better also you should include a create your own stadium mode edit mode add the blue square premier also indoor football and if you can beach football also training before the match on psp and the psp fifa 2010 must be much better this year like the grass being darker also better atmosphere and better graphics also you should be able to create your own teams (stevenage youths and own teams like made up ones) and on the psp include the referee on the pitch and more and better camera views more deflected goals and flooky goals include the same amount and same players on every team on the psp not just the ps3 and xbox 360 and to be able to create your own players please
have every single league.be able to see paramedics on the pitch and when people are out cold see the little car.be able to see th managers
i agree wid thanvar
you could include all the leages such as all the scottish leages,the conference,argentina and russia.we could be able to see paramedics coming on to the pitch and see the coaches going mad and also see players warming up.
U21 national teams
youth teams - EX. primavera italian teams - players can be called up in manager modes by serie a clubs
And some more offers::
To make it is more than messages after matches with a choice of the answer (interview), and also to allow to operate club in inter-season period (for carrying out of transfers) and to make more than management options (to approach to the football manager).
Thank you!
in fifa 10 i would like to see 2 player manager modes.
My offers on improvement FIFA 10:
1. To add in manager mode free weekends and to allow to operate club and a international command simultaneously.
2. To add an option of a choice of the kits of the referee before matches.
3. To add the international tournaments (a World Cup, the European championship and others)
4. To add tournaments a Champions League (instead of ЕСС) and League of Europe.
5. To add the international tours of clubs.
Thanks!
Players can get more physica
More tricks (for both teams)
Better Graphics of both crowd and players
More realistic Injuries
More celebrations of star players equivalence to the taunts they do in real life
managers on touchline,
more deph in manager mode and be a pro mode,
more stadiums

Add womens teams

Bring back the ability to change the shirt numbers of your players,
In arena, add walls when you shot a freekick! Please FIFA 10
Darnell Miller
I have a big problem with players getting carded after a play. I feel that if ur gonna get a card, they
should stop play and give it to you, so can u please take that out of the game. and One thing to add
to the new fifa is quick restarts. THis would add to the overall reality of the game. another thing: you
should add practice to the game so that players can actually practice set pieces, and wont have to
learn how to be effective as they play the game. The alternative to this would be allowing players to
import a 4-5 man wall in the fifa arena so that they can practice getting the ball over and around walls
because practicing free kicks without a wall in the arena does not help you when you reach the pitch.
and in manager mode, players should be able to unlock highlight reels of their favorite teams after
completing a season without simulation.
other than that
I have no further requests
thanks
-Darnell
more shoes and fights to get suspended

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